Vince Gilligan and Rhea Seehorn, the creators and stars of Apple TV's 'Pluribus', share their journey and insights. They discuss their easy camaraderie, formed through their decade-long collaboration on 'Better Call Saul'. Seehorn's portrayal of Carol Sturka, an irascible author, is a key element of the show. Gilligan and Seehorn delve into their creative process, including their shorthand and the importance of trust and risk-taking on set. They also explore the character of Carol, highlighting her curmudgeonly nature and the challenges of balancing personal and professional relationships. The interview concludes with a reflection on the creative process and the importance of collaboration and trust in the creative process.